Who cares. He's dead and people are treating him like a god. It's all stupid.
This coming from someone with a swastika on the flag. Stupid indeed.
I'd be willing to bet a lot that he was not the first person to fall asleep while the Pope was speaking. Hell, the Pope himself has done that at least once.
Isn't it fun to slam people when they die? And so very classy too!
Yeah....bunch of cowards
Personally I think the reason people do this shit is because they have no spine. Worthless pieces of shit. What is funny, is I bet I will never meet one of these people that like to do this face to face. They don't dare take it out of the printed realm and into reality where they would get their ass handed to them.
Good point, I agree.
Just remember that when some politico you don't like dies.
And while I think it is bad form to slam someone when they die, I think it is foolish to heap uncritical praise on them as well, whether it is Reagan, Nixon, JFK, or whomever. Reagan did many wonderful things, and was an inspirational figure, his tenue wasn't all good. No one's is. But Reagan left us with a lot of problems that we are still dealing with, not the least of which are Saddam and bin Laden. So let's bury Caeser, and praise him too, but keep it dignified, respectful, and within something close to reality.
Well, everybody is running around acting like Ronald Reagan was the best thing since sliced bread and infallible at that but in reality he did a lot of very bad things. Just because he died doesn't mean all the bad stuff he did should be ignored.
Jizzmasterzero: I am open about my political feelings outside "of the printed realm" and have never had my ass handed to me. Alas, you make fun of other people for talking big on the Internet, yet there you are doing it yourself. And I wasn't even trash talking, this stuff is simply the facts. Seeing as how when you disagree with something / someone you always just insult it / them instead of attempting to refute the points your comments don't really have any effect.
Agree or disagree with his policies, he was a President, and deserves respect for that fact. I will say the same about Clinton, Carter, or any Democrat as well when their time comes. For that fact, just about anyone deserves a decent amount of respect when they finally peel off the mortal coil. It's only human.
There is plenty of time to debate differences in politics, philosophy, or whatever, just not at certain times, especially in death. Many liberals are failing miserably (in print) at simple decency with Reagan. This is just the ugly side of partisan politics of 'party trumps everything else'. Truly disgusting in any form, liberal or conservative..
Just think about this, who would want people to dredge up the shitty things you did during your lifetime at your funeral?
Nope, me neither.....
"he was a President, and deserves respect for that fact", are you serious? To maintain its' worth, respect should be earned not given. If you don't like somebody, you can't say so when they die? Many conservatives cannot understand this, to use a crummy generalization like yours with liberals. Interesting analogy at the end, but it's not like this link was posted at Reagans funeral or people were speaking bad about him there.
Yeah its kind of like when people bitch that John F Kerry deserves respect because he visited Vietnam....you have to earn respect. Reagan has earned the respect of millions of people through out the course of his beautiful life. John Kerry gets made fun of on Jay Leno's show.
LMFAO
Talking big would be talking one way and doing another.
I don't give a fuck one way or another what you think. You could say it to my face and I would ignore you. I don't put up any fronts anywhere I go. I also have nothing to prove to anyone. I have already proven it to myself.
More than 100,000 people in California alone waited to pay respects. I guess being a U.S. president does not warrant any respect at all in your estimation, perhaps it's a bit too much of an adult concept for you. What would be your standard of respect, the dude who can fix the Slurpee machine?
I am not saying that you need to love the President, current, or past. Just a simple respect for the deceased, for chrissakes......
I am not saying that you need to love the President, current, or past. Just a simple respect for the deceased, for chrissakes.....
This is perhaps the best quote ever on MV. Funny how some people base the respect that they give a person is contingent upon the political party that they identify with.
[Comment was edited by Abes on June 10, 2004 at 02:46:59 AM]
The only thing funny about your assumption is just that, it's an assumption about a person that you don't know hardly anything about and their beliefs. Here is a filler for you though: I don't base respect on what political party a person identifies with, I base respect on a persons actions. Didn't you even read any of the points made at the link? I personally have an extremely hard time respecting people who play a major role in acting to overthrow democratically elected governments, just to name one of Ronald Reagans numerous misdeeds. Do you find that appealing?
Are you kidding me??? Username "Ironix" would have exactly dick-squat to say in a room full of Green Beret's! Or Marine's! Or anyone else for that matter. Give the boy (and I stress BOY) a keyboard, and he'll put a Nazi symbol where the stars should be.
I don't respect everything the US gov't does. I don't know how you got that impression, dj28. I read the link and frankly don't buy it as gospel truth, as you obviously do. And please name one democratically elected government not listed on THAT site that Reagan stopped and/or disagreed with.
Try googling for: Iran Contra Reagan. (67,900 English pages) I'm not going to do your research for you.
Talking big, talking tough; same difference. If I meant saying one thing and doing another I would have referred to some derivative of hypocrisy. You do run around swearing at and meagerly attempting to personally insult people who you don't know on the Internet which is undoubtedly some kind of "front". An aggressive and hostile one displayed through talking tough. And if calling a person you don't have a clue in the World about a coward on the Internet isn't a "front" of some sort, then I don't know what is. Name calling over the Internet... please.
I asked you to specifically name one, and you couldn't do it without an internet search engine. LOL!
You must not have read very much of that link because it does not mention anything about overthrowing governments yet you ask about a "government not listed on THAT site that Reagan stopped" and there were none listed in the link. The Iran Contra "scandal" (severe understatement) is also mentioned nowhere in the original link. If I didn't already know the original incident (Iran Contra) used to support the overthrow of the democratically elected Nicaraguan government, then how did I know precisely what to look up on google? Think about it just for a second, your joke is not as funny as you propose it to be, but it does show that you didn't read very much or any of the link.
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What would I have to say to a room of meatheads that I have nothing in common with? No, I'd probably just end up drinking in that situation.
Nope, wouldn't want it to happen to me. I also wouldn't want my death to whitewash ALL of the mistakes I made and the faults I had, nor would I want it to be used as an excuse to rewrite history and snowball many more generations into political football, where only one way of thinking is deemed right.
I think the biggest problem that Reagan left us with;even greater than the bulging National debt and rape and pillage of the taxpayers by the deregulation he pushed through Congress; is the adoption of the soundbite political campaign.
This has effectively reduced politics to a 30 second circus and National elections to a cheap sideshow.
Thanks, Ronnie! 
[Comment was edited by OHYEAH on June 10, 2004 at 12:50:06 PM]
That's the guy I remember, not the one they're talking about non-stop on the news!!! Gawd, American's have a short memory. Hey, wait! Maybe they learned it from HIM!!!!
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Very disrespectful.