But, but, but with out the EPA we will all have flammable drinking water and our air will be toxic!
Well, before the EPA, the water really was flammable and the air really was toxic. So...
I see alot of people who complain about the FDA also, try reading about butcher shops before them though.. Then tell me if you would want to shop at a place like that.
Not into roadkill sausages myself..
why must the idiots always argue between all regulation is bad and any regulation is ok as long as no regulation was bad.
It was bad legislation pure and simple, and more than likely due to the fact that congress is a bunch of crooks trying to continually line their own pockets. Rather than mandate something generic, the law tried to mandate private sector investment in specific technologies that at the time it looked like specific companies and individuals would profit from. SO in order to mandate buying a product that some legislator or their buddies were invested in, they committed people to a flop technology.
Because people abuse lack of regulation when free, and impose too strict when the ball starts.
What you say and think would be great in an ideal world full of ideal people.. Just we dont live in that world. Also when you take a look at some of the regulations people support taking away here on madville... Well, that says enough. People here support a more polluted world. And then we have the money side of it, when at the same time if it where to loosen up oil regulations (dirty deals going on behind it all) people here would support it.
PS, not everyone can log into the NY Times.. So some prob didnt even read it.
If you want God to run youre government i think you might be living in the wrong nation...
We could always break out shot glasses, poison one and play in god we trust. After somene dies we can play godswill.
I certainly trust Government Regulation more than god.
For your NYT issues just try bugmenot.
BAd regulation that is obviously bad is never the best idea, sorry.
Then you are trusting Goldman Sachs,Citt Bank, Nancy Pelosi, Reid, Newt Gingrich, Bernanke, Paulsen, Geitner bERNIE mADHOFF .. etc .. etc.
Why so many comments on this thread and not this one which is realty I guess the truth is easy to ignore for many
other than a flippant comment on how more people today treat government as their moral guiding light instead of religion?
or this recent link?
edit ...
now I would be fine if they tool in God we trust off the US currency - I respect the opinions of others to be agnostic if they so choose. The intent of the comment concerning religion was not so much about how everyone should trust in god for everything - but the intent was that people should not put their trust in government for everything. The growth of government in every aspect of a persons life today .. and the decline of religion in everyone's life today (In the US at least)is not a good thing. Just like the days when religions were much stronger in the US - there was freedom to do with or without or do whatever part you wanted to do with your religious freedom .. however - the same can not be said about if you want to ignore governments ever expanding rules and regulations. Rules and regulations which are expanding to every part of a persons life and business.
As Razzo pointed out .. I don't think anyone is advocating no regulations .. but too many regulations is not good either. ANyone who lieves in Califgornia aand have the exodus of companies to other states or other country's can appreciate the role that too much regulation is bad for business and bad for people.
All you have to do is look at history to understand the advantages of regulations and what happens when those regulations unchecked. Also, the people you just mentioned will gain more from lack of regulations then they would from having them.. But i think that gulf oil spill a good example.. You where one of the loudest on it, but not to the people at fault..
But i guess history easy to ignore, for a few.
For religon, last i saw freedom in religon had a big part to do with it all.
"Say nothing of my religion. It is known to God and myself alone. Its evidence before the world is to be sought in my life: if it has been honest and dutiful to society the religion which has regulated it cannot be a bad one. " Thomas Jefferson
"I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature. " Thomas Jefferson
What part didn't you read from my post ... it is apparent you did not listen to the video at the link either
As Razzo pointed out .. I don't think anyone is advocating no regulations .. but too many regulations is not good either
Easy to ignore .. for someone who hardly ever posts a link by yourself .. and ALWAYS quips and complains about other peoples post .. you are something else.
As long as you want to quote Thomas Jefferson
The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first.
A wise and frugal government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, which shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government.
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.
The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
I think myself that we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always oppressive.
The god who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time: the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them.
Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want bread.
The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.
He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.
I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
I have sworn on the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.
I have never been able to conceive how any rational being could propose happiness to himself from the exercise of power over others.
To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
So, i dont sit here and troll post all day.. You have a point somewhere?
You talk alot about how everyone just comes down on you but guess what, youre the one who insults people during normal debate.
And yes, we can both keep pulling up quotes.. That doesnt change the FACT that religon has no place in a multicultural nations government.
Now you can keep attempting to take rude shots and make yourself look worse, or you can debate like a normal person. I dont really care.
PS, youre post was edited from its origional form also, you might think of that next time you talk about people not reading.
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I miss the stupid category.