I recently talked to someone who was in Alaska recently looking for a glacier that a lot of people visited just a couple years ago. Couldn't find it.
Do you ever wonder how all those crooked scientists and corrupt politicians manage to hide all that ice?
Does it EVER make you wonder if you are on the wrong side of this issue? Even if you don't wonder, you will have to face the reality someday anyway. I am just giving you fair warning; the people crying fraud are the real fraudsters. Really.
So glaciers are immortal and things don't change in the world, but when someone claims that we are the cause and willing to change data to make their claims more real... Also their data is too small in time scale.
I don't want to argue the point, but I will leave you with the revelation I had about a related matter; the controversy in the 1980's over whether the link between smoking and cancer was a provable fact or a "liberal lie".
The "global warming is a liberal lie" playbook is a carbon copy of the tobacco campaign of the 80's even to exact wording sometimes.
Anyway, what I realized, back then, is that there would be an endpoint to the controversy. At some point there would be proof that smoking causes cancer, or that it doesn't, and everyone would move on. And, indeed, that did happen, with almost everyone finally convinced that the link exists.
The Climate Change/Global Warming issue is exactly the same. At some point, in the near future, there will be compelling evidence that certain pollutions can have an adverse effect on the Earth's climate, or conversely, energy companies can throw just about anything into the air and nothing bad will happen.
One or the other of these positions will become clear enough that the debate will be all but over.
The reason I warn you about this is that eventually the world learned that the "Link between smoking and cancer is unproven" people knew all along that the link existed, but they were cynically using people's gullibility to buy time in the debate about what to do about smoking. Since the "Warming is a hoax" people are using exactly the same tactics as the tobacco people used, there is a high likelihood that they already know that carbon pollution can affect the climate.
Climate Change/Global Warming thing does not equal the cigs cancer issue, since money is being made through the bogus green technology (won't work for many a few decades) that can't replace the current energy needs cheaply and laws that people are passing on junk science. It is junk science as it has not been proven yet and the data sets are way too low to prove that we are at fault for the changes.
Funny you should say "junk science". That is what they called the link between smoking and cancer in the 80's, they called it junk science.
1CWhatever it is that is going on here it doesn 19t look like it 19s being dominated by carbon dioxide, 1D says Prof Curry.
So, she admits something going on, just that she doesnt think carbon dioxide the cause. In fact, i dont see her saying much of what the headline claims.
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So how about the continued fraud of global warming or whatever they change the title to suck more grant money for research and allow greedy politicians to pass bad laws and taxes.