Once again, gun ownership is at an all time high, no gun confiscation has taken place under President Obama despite the scaremongering, and all of the figures show that income redistribution is real, but is happening in the reverse direction that you keep carrying on about.
Middle America keeps losing income while the earnings at the top have been explosive. None of this Robin Hood style income redistribution is actually taking place.
What is profit but redistributed wealth. Where do you think rich people get their money from but from the poor.
And after a while the rich will get poorer and poorer. The rich forget that they are the top feeder in the economy. As they greedily grab a larger and larger portion of the income pie the economy will get smaller and smaller. And there is a point of no return where their greed will destroy the economy and make America a third world country as poor as Chad or Haiti. We are pretty close to that point. The 2012 elections will the telling point. If the Republicans gain control of all three houses because of corporate money then it over for America. Time to move.
Yep, if that anonymous corporate money makes it to the progressives as planned, it will be time to move on to to vote roping projects without repug resistance.
Mr. stewartm0205 is right. There is no new wealth created, There is only a certain fixed amount of money shuffled around from the poor to the rich. That is why they don't have money printing machines that stamp out more money than is retired from circulation.
Steam, if you can't or won't understand how wealth is truly created then you won't be able to contribute to this country. Answer this simple question: Which states have the highest per capita income and are they conservative or progressive? If the answer is that they are all conservative then we should listen to you, if on the other side they are progressive then we should ignore you.
Mr. Stewartm205 hit the nail on the head. The states with the most money contain conservatives, and they get their name by hoarding a limited amount of cash. Because they have this cash, the government rightly confiscates redistributes it, via wealth redistribution tax, to the poorer states where it makes it look like the poorer stae is actually the richer state, in order to level the playing field. Cash is sort of like marbles, Thousands of years ago they produced several millions marbles -- no more before or since. We still use those same marbles today, just like we use the same water today that was present millions of years ago in the form of dinosaur pee at various times. The marbles, like energy, are neither created nor destroyed; they merely move from one person's possession to another, or stay in the same person's possession all the time. If the marbles move from the rich to the poor it is good, Vice versa is bad. Mr. Gramps would agree I am sure. There is only so much cash. Should one have a successful business and your supply meets demand, you make a profit which brings the cash into your corner and out of the corner of the buyer. This not fair and what China is rightly doing to the US. The businessperson should work for free, for the good of humanity to provide his goods without asking for and consequently disturbing the otherwise even balanced amount of cash distributed amongst people by progressive powers. The solution is to eliminate successful businesses people and their employees so that the cash will not be "sucked towards one person rather than another. Does that make it any clearer for you oh follower of eternal wisdom?
No gun confiscation, they jsut decided to commit large quantities of felonies to prove that us guns were headed to mexico. They also have been floating more importation bans.
The obama administration has been seeking ways to enact gun control without going outside of the executive branch. He just hasn't been very successful at it. And outside of a couple key anti-gun appointments, I suspect the issues is not on HIS mind directly very much. Most of the evidence is not so much the BO is a problem for RKBA, but that his AG appointee is. His appointee was a nasty anti-gunner long before appointment, so BO pretty much just let him loose where he could do damage.
As for the crime statistics, I'd say that the article probably hits the #1 contributor on the head with the age of the boomers. most crime is committed by males 16-28 years of age. We are just about passing a population trough where you should see a population bump solidly occupying that range in the next couple years.
Beyond their theories, I put forth that the internet is to blame as well, especially for a lack of a surge with the recession. It's a force multiplier for apathy. Income motivated crime is often about lifestyle maintenance above and beyond basic survival. If you cna steal entertainment and porn, hang out socially online without spending a dime, and other such fun stuff, the motivation for that drops off.
The problem with discussing this issue, aside from the fact that I have little interest in it, is the amnesia factor.
It seems obvious that I remember more clearly than any pro-gun person the near hysteria concerning Obama's impending confiscation of firearms and ammo. There was a very real frenzy to buy up all the guns & ammo before Obama makes them illegal.
As I said at the time, the possibility of that happening was, and is zero.
Rather than realize that you guys were taken for fools by a very active, and very misleading marketing campaign, you continue to look through the tea leaves for signs that Obama is ready to pounce on your guns, when there is no chance that it will ever happen. Oh sure there may be some token restriction of pre-loaded ammo over 1000 rounds for schizophrenic ex con Amish teenagers, but it will never be more than a token gun control.
The issue is like Social Security and Medicare in that it is political poison/suicide. The voters will kill off the political career of anyone who messes too much with those things.
Just let it go at that and enjoy your Constitutional freedom without the artificially induced worry, created by people like steamed. Just ignore them and they will, eventually, go away.
And by the way, the population dynamic argument makes a lot of sense to me, too, for the drop in crime.
Mr. Steamed. Wrong. I won't be bothering to answer your postings in the future. Not worth it.
Stop saying what I would agree with. Just stop it right now!
Ok I will stop saying that the rich get richer and richer as I now know that you actually disagree with your original satement that "Middle America keeps losing income while the earnings at the top have been explosive." Must be that amnesia kicking in again.
Mr, stewartm0205 is right. Only the poor buy things that create a profit for a rich and greedy seller. The middle class and rich buy things without a keystone or higher arkup through illegal wholesale sources, most often without a business license in the field that wholesaler supplies, so they don't pay taxes either.
Progressive and honest business people, like Martha Stewart, make no profit in their business and run the business only as a device to employ people and pay income taxes.
No I want you to stop speaking for me on any subject.
Dude, I don't know where you were, but the main thing with obama entering was a democrat controlled whitehouse and congress and fears of a new AWB. The biggest obstacle to that was were the blue dog democrats.
Right now, there's not much risk with the republican controlled house. However, you do have the executive branch looking to expand the definition of what is a destructive device and what is a title II weapon without congress involved.
the executive branch was also trying to justify an import ban on ammunition.
As for a 1000 round ban on ammunition, shit man, I cna go through that in a weekend if I have a couple major matches to attend.
It's not like gun control was left idle. It's continuing to be a fight. Right now, my side is winning more than losing, but we are coming off a couple major losses. We only have to lose badly once.
WE keep at it to remind them that the issue is poison. We aren't going to stop. You want someone to stop, let the dems stop paying lip service. Find one poll where anyone ever hit the polls because more gun control was a critical issue. They don't.
That's the long and short of it.
I do mind the executive branch committing felonies and contributing to people's deaths just so they can try to blame me for stuff I have nothing to do with.
I was making a joke about a 1000 round magazine.
That fear you spoke of, the one about Obama coming to the White House with dems controlling the Congress, imho, that fear was artificially induced and not justified.
The fact that nothing was done to confiscate guns or restrict ammunition is the best evidence of that. The gun industry and their lobby fanned the flames of that fear to boost sales. They have every right to do that, but you don't necessarily have to buy into what was really nothing more than a marketing campaign.
steamed
Very good article. The Obama effect is definitely critical because criminals no longer have to put their lives on the line so often during hot burglaries when the homeowner is at home and may be armed due to the vast gunnutness related explosion in right to carry laws across the US. The oppressed person simply votes for a proxy criminal to steal the money from other people's wallets for him or her, and redistribute the wealth to the criminal though one or more of many government domestication dependency programs. These domestication tools have to be provided as our pro-active wealth redistribution activists are afraid of peasants and serfs who unrightly own guns. Removing guns from the hands of non-criminals remains a critical under the radar project.