Yeah, but they outed - oops, I mean ousted him - so there's no bigotry in the tea party now. Fixt.
He was ousted
Too bad the dems and repubs can't get rid of their hypocritical political leaders like the smaller party which BTW is not in power anywhere and has not lead this country down a thorny path. GS give the most money to Obama .. Obama has Summers an ex GS VP as his economic adviser .. GS likes the dem 'financial' reform deal which the dems along party lines ... try to audit the Fed Reserve .. sorry .. can't do that .. the dems voted along party lines stopped that .. ever wonder why these pirates don't want you to know where the money is going and has gone'??
Funny how the dems and repubs in charge of the country can't fix their own house but can throw stones and some fringe party that has no power .. why is that? In fact the dems hate the Tea party more than they hate the repubs .. because the dems and the repubs are basically the same thieves on either side of the aisle .. the tea party are a threat to their power in which they have over the American piss ants they call voters. Wall Street, big money bankers and big business till rule the day .. same as it always was .. and most of the sheeple keep grazing. You maybe a sheeple if you think that racists and bigots are divided along party lines. There has been racism and bigotry and prejudice since before there was a United States and the dems and repubs - that is human nature ... why just look at all the flaming biased and prejudicial stories about the tea party and I would bet that most of those flinging these comments around don't personally know more than 5 people associated or who endorse the tea party .. shoot or even know one person ... you only know what the media has opened a can of BS on the tea party activists.
Dude, I think you read waaaay too much into my facetious little remark.
I really think the Tea Party was set up as phony grass roots organization to lobby for more deregulation for business, especially the politically active larger industries and companies.
You know, like Blue Cross and other insurance companies that don't want the feds looking at them, or BP and other oil companies who don't want to be monitored to see if they are following health and safety practices so nobody get killed or any oceans get filled with oil.
Whenever these Tea Party people say they want less government, that is what I think they are saying, let business govern themselves, don't bother spending tax money to see if the eggs are safe to eat or if the coal mines are on the verge of collapse.
That, I think is what they exist for, to lobby for business under the grass roots disguise.
No .. I was not reading too much into 'your ' comment .. it just happned to be where I replied ...
it is the incessant barking of dumb tea partiers from so many at this site and they fail to notice the obvious of who is actually driving congress and the WH these past 20 years .. it sure wasn't the tea party.
The repubs 'say' they wanted less govt too yet GW was spending like a socialized drunken sailor ... now with GW having raised the bar to insane spending amounts .. Obama had to even go more crazy and spend twice as much as his predecessor did just to prove to all that govt loves them.
The reason I knock the Tea Party so much is mostly given by gramps above.
Yes, all the political parties have their bad apples, and I agree with you that voting 3rd or 4th or 5th party is important. But the Tea Party is just so obviously based on a lie, grass roots my buttocks, it gets under my skin.
You all are in denial .. who has been driving this country to the brink of ruin .. and you guys are getting mad at the tea party who is like the firemen trying to put the fires out.
What does Blue Cross have to do with the Tea Party' Think there is big money in Blue Cross and health care .. who do you think gets all the lobby money .. not the Tea Party ... ever wonder why your health care costs go up an amazing amount every year .. go ahead and blame the tea party .. you know they have such political influence and have passed many a law in favor of health Care and lowering costs. How about BP giving all that money to Obama .. how about the oil companies giving money to the repubs .. how about the over bloated govt and the officials who were supposed to regulating things .. but they didn't .. Gramps and apparently you think that we need more regulation ... but what should be obvious, is that we need the folks that were supposed to regulating to actually have done their jobs. Gramps wants to add more govt jobs to regulate ..as if they can't be bought off or just don't give a crap because they are a civil servant. They don't work in a competitive business .. they work for the govt. There were plenty of financial regulations that could have caught a ton of crooks on Wall Street - most everyone knew Madoff was stealing .. most everyone but the federal regulators that is. Let's get more regulators .. that'll solve all the problems. More govt intervention .. that ALWAYS works doesn't it.
BTW .. if business was able to govern itself ... this housing and financial business would have been squared away by now .. instead of a trillion$ and half spent by the feds and still in a crapper. Of course .. that is not what the financial companies on Wall Street and the lobbyists pay their hard earned money in DC for.. they invested money into THEIR political hacks .. so we had the reform bill ..banks and Wall street are bigger and richer ... and the poor get poorer. I am very sorry that it is not obvious to the most casual observer and that political party lines have caused so many with poor eyesight.
Calling the Tea Party the firefighters is laughable. They are owned by the same corporate big money interests as the republicrats and are paid to spread fear and hate as a political tactic. If anything they are just putting fuel on the fires.
And I agree, we do not need many more laws, just need to enforce the ones we have, and I think the way to do that is by getting big money out the election process. When the guys who are supposed to be be regulating things are being paid by the entities they are supposed to be regulating, we end up with 11 dead oil rig workers and and the great dead gulf.
BTW... if buisness was able to govern itself, we would still have 6 yr olds working 16 hr days for 25 cents. Cuyahoga River would still be on fire. The babies without brains would be nationwide instead of on the border etc, etc etc.
Who do I think gets the Lobby money? Politicians who are owned by people like the Koch bros get that money as a reward for being good employees for big business. The politicos do what their big money benefactors tell them. If you watch the Carlin video, that is what he is saying.
I really think the Tea Party was set up as phony grass roots organization to lobby for more deregulation for business, especially the politically active larger industries and companies.
*sigh*
See you miss the point. There is no "the tea party." It's a zillion little different organizations. Hence the grass roots thing. It was not fabricated out of whole cloth as some astro-turf illusion.
There are people who are deeply pissed off by a bunch of crooks pissing away their money to buy votes at a VERY, VERY bad exchange rate. There are lots of them.
At worst, what is going on are a bunch of the usual suspects trying to co-opt this grass roots identity as it grows to national influence. That's just the normal risks of the game, and does not speak to the character of everyone involved, nor the merit of the core message.
With regards to bigotry, what matters is if groups pander to the bigots to get numbers, or not. Right now, the GOP panders to the religious bigots and sexual orientation bigots way more than they should. If the small groups are willing to NOT do that. Even if their condemnation isn't pleasing to you as an individual, that's a good thing, and puts the GOP at a disadvantage with regards to co-opting them nationally.
It is a fight that will define the GOP. The dems have their own analogous fights that will redefine their party.
Hopefully the entrenched and corrupt get diluted a bit on both sides.
You make a valid point that there was an audience ready for the concept of the Tea Party and that idea spread quickly once it got wide press by Fox News and others. I don't question the sincerity of those who carried signs and heckled members of Congress and who came out in droves to vote out sitting GOP politicians.
I do believe that the spark for all of this was a calculated, well funded and well publicized effort that was dreamed up as a way for health insurance companies that were used to having things their own way after 1993, to make their case against reform without having to come out and say things officially on the record.
Since their side is pretty much anti consumer, anti taxpayer and anti patient, they couldn't very well deliver their message against reform themselves. With the Tea Party movement, when someone said Death Panels and Socialism and waved photos of Stalin and Mao, it was some pissed off civilian and not Blue Cross saying it.
Reply to Maude_Lynne:
My bad. I thought you were replying to 'my' comment.
Assasination is chic among some. I would expect it from a tea partier though.
fropfreak
Why would anyone think the TP was based on bigotry?