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Jan 06, 10 01:57 am
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Darn! Wish I could afford to move there! Now we have another reason besides the weather and Beaches!!




Jan 06, 10 03:45 am
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Interesting. I did not know that about Hawaii. But if their only significant reform is to require employers to insure all workers, then that's not really progressive. The problem is the unemployed and underemployed. If a lot of the jobs there are part time service/food jobs, then what good is health insurance if you can't even afford the $2000 deductible or whatever? You may as well not have any at all.


 
Jan 07, 10 03:44 pm
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Reply to TheNationalist:

kind of like the BS they are trying to pass through without any input of the people who are starting to learn to really distrust DC Beltway bastards. A bit late, but better than never....

www.tekkoshocon.com ---> Pittsburgh anime con. "Show me just what Mohamed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

 
Jan 07, 10 03:57 pm
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Reply to thebaron:

Americans want healthcare reform. My point was that our reforms are not progressive enough, not that we shouldn't be doing anything at all. What good is health insurance to a part time hotel worker when her deductible is $2000 (or even more if she has a family)?

Republicans are screaming about the reforms now, but once it passes and five years go by, nobody is going to seriously argue that the reforms are bad. Let's not forget that the Republicans screamed bloody murder over the Social Security Act of 1965 that setup Medicare. Almost none of them voted for it. But today, no Republicans are arguing that Medicare is bad. In fact, it's one of the most popular and successful federal government programs. Republicans have a very long history of opposing progressive programs that end up being extremely successful and integral parts of American life.


 
Jan 07, 10 05:24 pm
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Reply to TheNationalist:

it is bad even now, since the government does not have the power invested to do these things and fuck the progressive movement. Spend their own @#$@#$ money on their desires and leave the rest of our alone. Medicare is not successful due to it not paying it's fair share to the hospitals and it's still broken (and will be broke soon enough). No wonder why groups are dropping Medicare coverage. The government caused most of these problems and now are trying to fix their mess with more stupidity.

www.tekkoshocon.com ---> Pittsburgh anime con. "Show me just what Mohamed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

 
Jan 07, 10 05:36 pm
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Reply to thebaron:

Unless you're wealthy, you're a net beneficiary of federal money anyway (interstate highway system, college loans, your mortgage, OSHA, etc). After deductions and exemptions, families who earn less than $100,000 certainly don't pay their "fair share." It's basically the super wealthy and corporate tax footing the bill.

Assuming you're not wealthy, why don't you pay your fair share? It's a two way road.


 
Jan 07, 10 06:54 pm
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Reply to TheNationalist:

Fair share? forcing people to pay for an overbloated government that keeps breaking the rules that founded it's role in our lives. I'm tired of the cradle to the grave power grab and would be much better off without their "help".

They pay a cut rate on Medicare patients and than cut the payment even further again. Why would anyone take medicare patients anymore? This is not a charity and the government wastes money gather for medicare on non-medical issues to keep their huge government rolling. Spending more than you take in is not a bright thing for us or the government, so why would we let them keep the insanity going?

www.tekkoshocon.com ---> Pittsburgh anime con. "Show me just what Mohamed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

 
Jan 07, 10 07:22 pm
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Reply to thebaron:

Are you angry because YOU think you are paying for government, or are you angry FOR the wealthy who have to pay for government? I'm trying to understand where your outrage is aimed.


 
Jan 07, 10 09:43 pm
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Reply to TheNationalist:

No one should have to pay for 70% of the stuff that our current Federal Government is doing.

Here is the list of powers our federal government have been given:

1. Borrow money

2. Regulate commerce among the states

3. Regulate naturalization

4. Regulate bankruptcies

5. Coin money

6. Fix weights and standards

7. Punish counterfeiters

8. Establish post offices

9. Establish post roads

10. Record patents

11. Protect copyrights

12. Create federal courts

13. Punish pirates

14. Declare war

15. Raise an army

16. Provide a navy

17. Call up the militia

18. Organize the militia

19. Makes laws for Washington, DC

20. Make rules for the Army and Navy

I don't see:

medicare, medicaid, education, control air waves, environment, control food and drugs for medicine, and many other things that are not on the list of authorized powers.

www.tekkoshocon.com ---> Pittsburgh anime con. "Show me just what Mohamed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

 
Jan 07, 10 09:59 pm
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Reply to thebaron:

So you're angry that wealthy people have to pay for government, not necessarily that you do. Your outrage is based on principle rather than any perceived unfairness perpetrated against you. Because we've already established that you likely do not pay your "fair share" of the federal projects and services that you use every day. But if you make six figures or are in the top 10% of wage earners, feel free to correct me.

medicare, medicaid, education, control air waves, environment, control food and drugs for medicine, and many other things that are not on the list of authorized powers.

Your list of powers conferred by Article I section 8 skips the first enumerated power (general welfare clause). The general welfare clause has been interpreted by the Supreme Court since the dawn of our country's history to be an enumerated power that congress has to tax and spend on projects for the benefit the general good of the country. Medicare, Medicaid, and most all other federal services fall under Article I section 8. The EPA, FDA, and most other government agencies' constitutionality stems from both Article I section 8 and the interstate commerce clause.

Again, as with most of your comments, you are arguing about what ought to be in your own little fantasy land rather than what actually is the law.


 
Jan 07, 10 10:02 pm
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Reply to thebaron:

3. Regulate naturalization

ahhh hhahahahahahahahahahahahahah

they are too busy giving it all away to the illegals...oh man i pissed myself a little.


 
Jan 08, 10 01:10 am
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Reply to TheNationalist:

The Confederates were smart enough to remove that blighted section from their Constitution due to the abuse of the section by the federal government.

www.tekkoshocon.com ---> Pittsburgh anime con. "Show me just what Mohamed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus



Jan 07, 10 10:07 pm
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Hawaii also has the lowest percentage of uninsured citizens among all 50 states

so much for that pesky " Everyone has to have insurance or get fined " thing.



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