The Democratic Underground explains why Medicare is so bad and how they work with the FF to maintain it that way.
And the FF looks forward to making the government ran civilian care just as clean and efficient as government ranVA care.
Oh hell yes. 
not really... just dumb.
Yup, like those opposing a public option.
They are the smart ones, since they realize that government involvement will create even more havoc in the medical system. It will be botched and become a single payer system (they can force you or companies off of an insurance plan even if you loved it? WTF?). The trillion dollar price tag will be 3, 4, 5 trillion soon enough and were are we getting this imaginary money?
Maude_Lynne