I think it is appropriate to keep it in the funny section. What a joke it is.
:edit: prob not as big a joke as Bush and Blair being nominated for it.
Seriously?
The decision to bestow one of the world's top accolades on a president less than nine months into his first term, who has yet to score a major foreign policy success, provoked gasps of surprise from journalists at the announcement in Oslo.
Well, to be honest a lot of undeserving people have won the peace prize in history.. To me this atleast a sign of America gaining a bit of its old global reputation back.. Rather then downing it you should be patriotic and support it, right?
Um, no. In my mind it just goes to show a decline in the once prestigious award. First Al Gore gets it for his self serving junk science and now BO gets it for a catchy campaign slogan. It's a joke. If either had truly earned it that would be a different story.
Do you know the history of the nobel peace prize at all? I'm talking about a lot worse people then Al Gore, and long before then.
:edit: you think Al Gore is worse then Yasser Arafat lol *shakes head*
While I don't agree with much that came from Arafat, he did some work for peace and deserved recognition more than Gore did.
He got it for his work on the Oslo agreement, many Palestinians didnt agree. He set himself up to become head of the PNA, later turning into the official government of the Palestinians, From there he put exactly who he wanted into power.. So yeah, not cool..
It's been moved to the News section.
I agree! That man has done NOTHING! NOTHING! but talk!
Arafat should been hung for his terrorist.
He died 5 years ago.
No problem! 
This is an insult.
Can somebody explain to me why Obama was awarded this prize?
And not the media hype of "encouraging peaceful relations"...anybody?
Not the best images to illustrate this theory - but doesa anybody else see the resemblence?
Should have died a few decades before that.... at least he suffered for his sins.
The same Danny Thomas style nose is all..Arrowfat was no stooge. And Larry was no terrorist.
Lighten up. It was a joke about physical resemblance only. And as I said Not the best images to illustrate this theory
plenty light... was just 'menting... I liked Danny Thomas's nose for the record.
the pundits are gonna have a field day with this one.
President Barack Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize on Friday for giving the world "hope for a better future" and striving for nuclear disarmament ...
The deadline for nominations is February 1, meaning Obama would've been nominated after being in office for just 11 days.
He got elected for his speeches .. for the presidency and the Nobel peace prize ... not for anything he has really done to help things. He did put the kabash on the European Missile shield .. for better or worse.
He has helped lower US troop morale American troops in Afghanistan losing heart
Has he brought this country together'?? at least he has gotten people more politically active ... probably more against than for. but getting apathetic people to care once again is a positive.
I think that Al Gores winning was more a farce than Obama's prize. The fact that he was nominated for this after being in office 11 days is quite the joke however.
We have only had troops there since 2001.... Why would they be losing heart? Oh yeah, obamas fault! Please ignore those other 7 years and existing low morale..
And if you would read, he did not win the prize in 11 days, he was nominated in 11 days. Other people nominated also, the committee just decided. Nice spin though..
:edit: i see a didnt read your post exactly right T, sorry there, i know you where not thinking he won in 11 days.
And what justified him being nominated in JUST 11 freakin days?
Nelson Mandela and Ghandi never won the Nobel .. but AL Gore, Kissinger and Yassar won the prize .. gish. It does upset me as much as instills in me that this world is a crazy place.
$1.4 million prize to boot. It's good to be king
First black president of the US could have been the nomination, that and his basic platform of ideas.. Really though, none of us even know who else was nominated that i have seen.. We have no clue his credentials over the others, everyone is just jumping on it without thought or even looking.. Which is part of the problem. Lets all jump on this because it obama, let not really look at it, or be proud for america for a day... We must bash obama!
Though the same thing happened with Bush, like i said.. When it comes to war though, bush did so much more damage to us then obama has.
And please remember, it even in the link you posted above, Obama looked upon very well globaly still..
First black president of the US
If that has any bearing, then shouldn't the Nobel Prize go to the country or citizenry of the United States, seeing as how they are the ones responsible for electing Obama?
As far as Obama being better than Bush, sure, the international community might like Obama as President better, but again, how does that make Obama worthy of this award?
The Norwegian Nobel Committee praised Obama for "his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples," citing his fledgling push for nuclear disarmament and his outreach to the Muslim world.
Obama, a Democrat who took office as the first black U.S. president in January, has been widely credited with improving America's global image after the eight-year presidency of George W. Bush, who alienated both friends and foes with go-it-alone policies like the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.~~
They also brought up him being a symbol of hope for a better future, which made me think of the first black US president and signs of change in America. I am a little sick of the world looking down on us like we all fools, How about you? Atleast we are becoming America again, even if some of you dont like it.
how does that make Obama worthy of this award?~~
How about you answer my question first, tell me what makes the other nomanies more worthy of the award? Because i'm willing to bet you dont even know who all else was nominated and for what.
You cant know nominee's either.. the official list of who and who nominated them is sealed by committee for 50 years...
Funny,it not kept secret for 50 years.. They do keep it secret but just read some, i'm sure you can find it.. If it where a 50 year secret we wouldnt know about the Bush, Blair nomination today, would we?
the official list is sealed for 50 years but individual nominators can make their nominations known... them wacky Nobellians... Their rules not mine
The Committee keeps the nominations secret and asks that nominators do the same. Over time many individuals have become known as "Nobel Peace Prize Nominees", but this designation has no official standing.[7] Nominations from 1901 to 1955, however, have been released in a database.[8] When the past nominations were released it was discovered that Adolf Hitler was nominated in 1939 by Erik Brandt, a member of the Swedish Parliament. Brandt retracted the nomination after a few days.[9] Other infamous nominees included Joseph Stalin and Benito Mussolini. However, since nomination requires only support from one qualified person, all nominations do not necessarily represent the opinion of the Nobel committee itself.[citation needed]
Unlike the other Nobel Prizes, which recognize completed scientific or literary accomplishment, the Nobel Peace Prize may be awarded to persons or organizations that are in the process of resolving a conflict or creating peace.
There have been some names released of the 2009 nominees however.
This included Colombia Senator Piedad Cordoba, Sima Samar, Chinese dissident Hu Jia, and Prime Minister of Zimbabwe Morgan Tsvangirai.
Other nominees are believed to be French President Nicholas Sarkozy, Ingrid Betancourt, the Cluster Munitions Coalition, Zivko Popovski-Cvetin, SOS-Kinderedorf International, Greg Mortenson, Thich Quang Do and Pete Seeger.
There is no official list however at this time.
All found in about 5 minutes... You had all day to look into it.
I never said the other nominees deserve it more than Obama, so I can't answer your question. I just simply pointed out the reasons you gave, that giving it to him because he is a "black" President reduced the Nobel Peace Prize to a genetic lottery (and I have to point out, Obama is mixed-race - repeatedly calling him "black" is doing America as well as all mixed-race individuals a disservice), and that giving him the award because he is the first President since Bush reduced the Nobel Peace Prize to an international political tool.
I had all day to work for a living.. believed to be doesnt cut it... and they dont attribute who any of the submitters were...
The bit about others deserving it more was mentioned earlier in the thread, no one addressed it, but a few people keep saying "why should obama get it" without even looking into the others and what he was up against... Now, i am sure if people do look into it they can prob find more deserving people, fact is NO ONE looked into it, NO ONE cared to.. Everyone wanted to complain because it was Obama without even looking into the subject at all.
No, they dont say who the submitters where, It be a long list if they did :D I cant think of much other then the old submisions your "50 year list" that has the submitters, not that this about who submitted obama or anyone else?
And yeah, work can be a pain, hence just getting back myself.
I saw that others suggest he didn't deserve it, but I was not a part of that, so asking me to address it is like asking you (for example) to support Big_T's claims that apple pie doesn't deserve the best pie award.
So answer my questions. Why does Obama deserve the Nobel Peace Prize for either of the two reasons you mentioned?
hmm North Korea, Actually trying to work with other nations instead of just blowing them up, give the world globaly a bit more hope then they have had in a very, very long time? He has done some enviormental laws, supporting nuke disarmorment and talks, basicly attempting to turn thngs around GW screwed up and made everyone laugh at us for?
And yes, i know you where not part of that, point being a few people keep coming here with the same thng "why give it to obama" Not one person wants to go into the big picture though.. Question answered as best i can right now..
Care to answer my question in return?
hmm North Korea, Actually trying to work with other nations instead of just blowing them up, give the world globaly a bit more hope then they have had in a very, very long time? He has done some enviormental laws, supporting nuke disarmorment and talks, basicly attempting to turn thngs around GW screwed up and made everyone laugh at us for?
An excellent way of completely avoiding either of my questions. So would you now agree that you were incorrect in your previous statement that Obama is worthy of the Nobel Peace Prize because he is a black President or because the world likes him better than President Bush?
Care to answer my question in return?
No, because again, I didn't dispute it. I don't know nearly enough to debate that, so I'm not going to let you drag me into some disagreement that has nothing to do with me. Are you trying to pick a fight or something?
Not at all, i would rather see people look into the subject and bring somthing of substance here, not just "obama shouldnt have won!! DOCTOR OCTAGONAPUS.... BLAHHHHHH!!!!!" which we keep seeing :)
You dont think getting NK or working with nations for nuke disarmament (personally i never thought NK would stand down) worth anything, or enviormental laws, or global outlook to the world and America and what we stand for anything? I dont know why anyone would think any form of "change" worth anything..
But i think i said all that the first time around, you ignored it..
Year Nominator Nominee(s) Motivation
1901 Getz Dunant Dunant was one of the founders of the International Committee of the Red Cross and he was the initiator of the Geneva Convention. Show
1901 40 members of the Wrttemberg parliament (House of Deputies) Dunant Dunant was one of the founders of the International Committee of the Red Cross and he was the initiator of the Geneva Convention. Show
1901 92 members of the Swedish parliament Dunant Dunant was one of the founders of the International Committee of the Red Cross and he was the initiator of the Geneva Convention.
I wanted this kind of list... but thats not to be for 50 years.
woulda been fun
09 emmanual obama
09 jackson obama
09 rangel obama
09 25 members of the white house obama
etc
Well, all i asked was to look into it, your choice to do so or not.. So far i havent seen anyone even mention someone else who would have been better... Why not turn the subject to something posative instead of a constant bash..Which is where i gain probs.
Not at all, i would rather see people look into the subject and bring somthing of substance here, not just "obama shouldnt have won!! DOCTOR OCTAGONAPUS.... BLAHHHHHH!!!!!" which we keep seeing :)
I completely agree with you on that statement. However, I have made some questions of substance to you that you won't address.
You dont think getting NK or working with nations for nuke disarmament (personally i never thought NK would stand down) worth anything, or enviormental laws, or global outlook to the world and America and what we stand for anything? I dont know why anyone would think any form of "change" worth anything..
But i think i said all that the first time around, you ignored it..
Do I really need to repeat myself again? I haven't disputed any of that, nor did I suggest working with nations for nuke disarmament or anything else isn't valuable, so quit putting words into my mouth. You made two specific claims of reasons you feel that Obama deserves a Nobel Peace Prize, neither of which required any effort on Obama's part. I've pointed that out to you several times asking you about those assertions you made, and you have refused to discuss them, instead bringing up a reason from a conversation that did not include me. If you won't address my questions to you, then you are no longer worth speaking to.
I would have been better... no wars.. didnt kill anyone... could use the money... so far I way ahead..heh
Actually, i havent even said if i think Obama deserved it... Ive just been fighting off the brush fire, so dont put words into my mouth..
I did however list possiable reasons for him being nominated, only after it was questioned by some why he deserved it.
Over all i have been trying to give possiable answers and speculation, without saying "i think Obama the best choice and should have won!!!" I dont think he a bad choice, and i am proud for america, that maybe we are coming back *shrugs* i'm not bashing him at all, i'd just like to see the ones bashing him bring something more then what i have seen so far.
There were some people who really didn't want Gandhi to win the prize for political reasons. Even with that Gandhi was nominated 5 times and probably would have won in 1948 if he hadn't died early that year. The prize cannot be awarded posthumously.
FYI: No prize was given out in 1948, because there was no living suitable candidate.
Hahahahahaha what a f'in joke!
But I guess image is everything today.
Ah well, people did the same when Bush nominated.. Just Obama won..
Really though, thankfully the world doesnt look at things the same way many americans do.. Instead they look at us mildly entertained and completely confused.
THE NOBEL PRIZE WINNER CALLS POLITICAL OPPONENT AN ASSHOLE!!!!!
What a morning at Morning Joe! First, a "senior White House official" sent an email calling Joe Scarborough an "asshole" for mocking Pres. Obama's Nobel Peace Prize.
Scarborough and Time's Mark Halperin 14whom no one would accuse of being a right-wing hack 14had some good-natured fun with the Nobel news. A laughing-out-loud Scarborough suggested among other things that Marisa Tomei was more deserving of her Academy Award. But the Messiah will not be mocked, and it wasn't long before NBC's Savannah Guthrie, on the set, announced that she had received an email from "a senior White House official" telling Joe to "stop being an asshole". Mika Brzezinski tried to soft-pedal the insult, claiming the White House was "joking." Real side-splitter! Is this the new standard of civility from Dems so offended by "you lie"?
Ok, even though there no link to that and it sounds like Paris Hilton on politics i will mention that no where in there does it say Obama called anyone anything... Could i interest you in a hammer and sickle, maybe a good propaganda printing press companey so you can further the cause?
Um . . . isn't the President in charge of the White House??????? Does he not take responsibility for ANYTHING??????
Bush called people worse by his own mouth, if you have ever run a busisness you know you can not watch all those who work for you all the time.
Obama was humbled to win... and WH was surprised..
What a load of shit
Who nominated him?? .. darn wont know for 50 years so I'll never know...bastid committee!!!
Why is Afghan troops decision on hold till announcement??
You are not president by committee... He's no Jack Kennedy.
Personally, I feel kinda bad for Obama. Based on the comments I've seen, even he knows he really hasn't done enough to truly deserve this award. It has turned the Nobel Peace Prize into the equivalent of getting a gold star in kindergarten. Obama still has three more years in office (with potentially four more following) that he actually might have done something worthy of this award, and now no matter what he does it is always going to be looked upon with suspicion.
People did the same thing to Roosevelt, there still schools and statues with his name today, not to mention his spot in history.
http://reason.tv/video/show/barack-obama-wins-2009-nobel-p
Atleast North Korea sat down, that more then we have seen from a US president in a long, long time.
Kinda funny, the same 5 or so very outspoken people, who post on this board all day with political propaganda the only ones screaming.. I guess yet again, that makes the rest of us the silent majority.
Well, you all have been out in full force with no gramps around.. Someone has to fill in, yeah?
This board was always right leaning though, which i had mentioned on my first name here long ago.
you all'?? white people, opinionated, seekers of truth, comedians, smut watchers, friends, hard to tell.
Look through this thread, About the same people you see posting in it.. lol
:edit: pretty much or normal, same ol' crew of obama bashers. minuse steamed, whoever he is he must be to worked up to log on an alt..
There are only about 15 people that comment on this site. I think it is a pretty balanced group.
Well, most of us left leaning people dont go into it anymore as loud as the righties do. just scroll through the recents, how many titles are spun to right wing and how many of us do that on the left side of things? I never change my story title to fit my ideology.
Over all, the actions of those loudest cause reactions like this.
When it comes to titling links, don't lump us all in with Alferd/hammers/Cat/Cut, he is one and the same and a total douche bag. The rest of us are only calling shenanigans now because it is very clear that BO did not deserve this award at this time. You can defend it in blind devotion all you want, but it is what it is.
Wow zek, i didnt know alfred/hammer/cat/cut the same person, thanks for that info.. I knew we had alts but i never looked into it enough to learn who.. And i am not lumping you together at all.. The whole time here i have said many just made it all look bad, trying to give light to the fact that it not all... So is alfred steamed also? And see my post above, i am defending it but i never have said i think it deserved or not, i just think if people want to bash it they should bring something better to the table :D You know, lets talk about the people who deserved it more, lets really get into the facts, not just "BOO OBAMA
I knew we had alts but i never looked into it enough to learn who..
I have a confession. My alt is Theo Pensea. But that was just because of naked firemen.
I am with you Kano, I just choose not to argue with them. But I appreciate your efforts.
I think we should vote Obama to win the Heisman Award this Year
President Obama wins 2009 Nobel Peace Prize, Heisman Trophy, a Tony Award, NBA MVP and 2010 Nobel Peace Prize: Video .... This breaking news ...
Guess people are still going to just go off and avoid actually going into the subject *yawns* no wonder most dont post.
:edit: Guess i will try once more.. Anyone at all have any ideas on who they think should have won or who would have been better?
Kano
Wow, peace and a US president in the same sentence?
::edit:: can someone move this to the news section?